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Old 06-17-2008, 07:36 AM
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Hi all from OZ,the more I get into the "yellow bible"the more I learn reliable techniques,so much so I now practice using machine principles.
For instance,I used to say to myself "more R/hand,or hit down etc"the list goes on.Now I can use,pivot,accs and p/points and know what their applications are.

Today,I started a long chipping session using different accumulators and p/points etc,I never used to chip with any pivot at all,always just used hands,so inevitably I would mess-up and not really ever know what or where I was breaking down etc.

I can know practice using different "proper" procedures and actually know exactly what I am doing.(thats a real change for me)the pivot on the short chips has given me a whole new confidence that I never had before.Thanks again TGM and LBG.(2 weeks,2 wins at the local course)
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:23 AM
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Hi all from OZ,the more I get into the "yellow bible"the more I learn reliable techniques,so much so I now practice using machine principles.
For instance,I used to say to myself "more R/hand,or hit down etc"the list goes on.Now I can use,pivot,accs and p/points and know what their applications are.

Today,I started a long chipping session using different accumulators and p/points etc,I never used to chip with any pivot at all,always just used hands,so inevitably I would mess-up and not really ever know what or where I was breaking down etc.

I can know practice using different "proper" procedures and actually know exactly what I am doing.(thats a real change for me)the pivot on the short chips has given me a whole new confidence that I never had before.Thanks again TGM and LBG.(2 weeks,2 wins at the local course)
Hi brownman

I have started chipping in a way I call chipping with everything! All about the pivot and really keeping the arms pretty passive. Really feel like I have more control over distance because I can much more easily rush or stop my arms, but my body movement is much more controlled.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:17 AM
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Does that mean it depends on the person? In another post, it talk about how good chipping and pitching by using right arm only push stroke (hitting).
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:43 AM
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Does that mean it depends on the person? In another post, it talk about how good chipping and pitching by using right arm only push stroke (hitting).

For extremely short shots which Homer termed Basic Motion, we limit ourselves to our Basic singular Power Accumulator. Putting or short chip shots say. The Hitter using his Actively extending right arm, from a Push or Punch elbow position. The Swinger using his Right Shoulder in a rocking type motion say. There are options.

For longer chip shots we need more power and so we "acquire" it by adding a pivot. This Homer termed Acquired Motion. We add another Accumulator to our Basic Motion.

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Old 08-20-2009, 09:53 AM
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Could someone please comment has to why my contact seems to be towards the toe when I am chipping. Thanks.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:56 PM
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Could someone please comment has to why my contact seems to be towards the toe when I am chipping. Thanks.
There are a few things that you may want to check in the yellow bible, if you have it. The Golfing Machine refers to Steering, Quitting, Bobbing and Swaying as the golfer's Snares--especially during Basic Motions (chipping).
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:10 PM
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Could someone please comment has to why my contact seems to be towards the toe when I am chipping. Thanks.
Probably because you are standing closer to the ball than you would if you were making a full shot with the same club.

This steepens the angle of the club shaft and lowers the toe of the club face.

It is not a bad "problem" to have and toe down chipping is deliberately used where there is a possibility of the heel of the club snagging the turf.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:30 AM
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If toe of your club is indeed down, then the sweetsot on the club will have migrated "toe-wards" so your toe hits should be OK.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:58 AM
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TGM Basic Motion requires the Shaft Grip be positioned in the Lifeline of the Left Hand; Zero #3 Accumulator and no cocking of the Left Wrist. Therefore, a one Accumulator Stroke. It's a precision, "Primary Lever Only" stroke; secondary Lever is Zeroed out.

This same stroke pattern using a traditional Grip, address engineering would include an Uncocked Left Wrist.

Chip with an Uncocked Left Wrist and the Clubshaft will be (darn close) on the Turned Shoulder Plane.

Uncocking the Left Wrist at Address creates a Rigid Primary Lever, reduces Hand manipulation, lends an undisturbed Clubhead Radius, Soles the Clubhead evenly for superb Contact with the Ball and reduces heel-ground and toe-ground contact. It Eliminates wobble, keeps the Flying Wedges Intact and allows the Clubface to perfectly open during the Backstroke and perfectly close during the Downstroke and eliminates throwaway.

Using an Uncocked Left Wrist creates a Rigid Primary Lever for Body Power to pull through Impact; whether worked by the Pivot, or shoulders only, or a Left Arm Only Stroke. Uncocking the Left Wrist at Address increases your sensitivity to inertia. Clubhead Lag will have greater feel and you'll have ultimate control in choosing Angled or Horizontal Hinging. Choke down an inch or so.

There are Professional Golfers who have a 55% Greens in Regulation statistic.

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Old 08-22-2009, 06:44 AM
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uncocked wrist ... mmmm
Good stuff Daryl. I have moved to a chipping action driven by the pivot. I setup with the handle in the lifeline of my palm. This seems to uncock the left wrist automatically. As long as I keep my arms from activating I get great feel, and that bit of lag that gives you that great sound when you hit it.
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